What happened after the Northeasters left? who cares


What happened after the Northeasters left? who cares

This article from the micro-channel public number: Everybody (ID: ipress), Author: Song Jinbo

On New year's Eve, he said, "there are people in the Northeast who love fried silkworm pupae and migrate from the northeast to Sanya with a large bag of silkworm pupae, but forget that the living silkworm pupa has reached the warm summer of Sanya, and has become a big lunging moth, flying all over the kitchen."

Northeast table is oak tree silkworm pupae, huge. When I saw how silkworm pupae turned into a big prickly moth, I knew that it was not necessarily empty.

But this will not be a fresh piece. The northeastern people "going into the army" in Hainan is not a matter of three or five years. The northeastern people’s love for silkworm cocoons has happened long ago, and it will wait until today.

This passage touched me because it implied that it was the deformation of space dislocation, some kind of unsuitable embarrassment. Symbolically at least, this passage fits quite well with some of the conditions faced by the Northeast today.

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I am referring to the two years of the network about the Northeast more and more "black story." Northeastern people are always on the cusp, and their reputation has declined in many places-at least on social media.

The "Swedish" who steals food from Hainan is "on the streets", to the group of Northeastern barbecues, vibrato, "investment but Shanhaiguan", even in the malignant cases in a big city, some people have noticed that the suspect is for many years. The Northeasters who come here to work.

Hainan has unclear property rights to demolish the real estate, pit is northeast people.

Not long ago, it was proposed that "use the accumulated balance of pension funds in the South to be transferred to the Northeast for immediate relief," and many southern friends could not help being angry. Within the range of their words, the Northeast could not avoid some stray bullets.

What is most commonly seen is this line: "Poor people must have something to hate", "We don't care if you can make a living, but don't be so poor."

Are Northeasters becoming "problem people"? Not only people facing economic difficulties, but also people who are culturally and morally flawed?


Northeast people often encounter a negative evaluation, is conservative and do not want to forge ahead. Experts and commentators have come up with an idea to encourage young people in northeast China to "go out."

But many problems in Northeast China are caused by the loss of population. People are gone, can't the problem be more serious?

On the other hand, there are too many people. Who can say that the increase in negative comments over the past two years has nothing to do with the number of people going out?

Should the Northeasters still go or not?

In my opinion, people are not "authentic" (Dai Zongyu in the Water margin), nor is it an era of forced migration, filling empty cities and filling the frontier. As long as the information is relatively transparent, self-choice is best-even if it seems less rational.

Don't tell me, there are really irrational choices.

In the book "Social Capital and Human Capital in Social Changes: A Social Survey Based on the Old Industrial Base of Northeast China" (Wang Wenbin), there are many examples of "irrational choices": after leaving the post, I know that there is better work in the field. However, he refuses to go out; obviously he can find a job on his own, but he has to trust the relationship; he can work at home, but he must lead the subsistence allowance at home, or even "old" (the "old people" who have passed the 40th year)...

The survey was conducted around 2009. Introducing the concept of "social capital", the author convincingly argues that many "irrational choices" are actually "natural selection" under the influence of long-term planned economy and the working environment of state-owned enterprises. People are not a complete economic person when they choose a job. They seek the most reasonable economy. More often, they are "social people", social relations, environment and other people's influence, social capital. Sometimes it creates irrational choices.

In the past, the inertia of the Northeasters was mostly focused on rural culture. "Wife and children are hot-headed." However, contemporary Northeastern people are more affected by the culture of state-owned enterprises. Regarding the impact of the planned economy and state-owned enterprises on the work and career choice of the Northeast, many people mentioned it before, and more is to regard this as a kind of "used problem."

It is indeed a "fault", but it is not entirely "used." It is not so much a "willfulness" as it is a "not free", a "sequel".

In this regard, if you are dissatisfied, you can try to change the mind of the elderly who are obsessed with buying health products. I mean, these two "faults" actually have similarities and require some "compassionate understanding."

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In the survey, more than one interviewee said that he was in a state-owned enterprise for the rest of his life. The unit is the whole life: family, family... In the round of the fierce northeast state-owned enterprise restructuring, they not only lost their jobs, but also Strong sense of being abandoned. There are also many people who lose their trust in "everyone" and feel the value of "little family".

Long-term staff and workers in state-owned enterprises, social resources and human resources are very poor. Their social relations and ability to work have a strong homogenization tendency, the degree of mutual influence in career selection is very deep. In many cases, "other people's choices" are more important than "what can you do".

There are fewer rational factors and more emotional factors. Irrational choice tendencies will also "genetic" and affect the child's career choices. Of course, including those who have been criticized before, "the young people in the Northeast are keen on testing civil servants."

There are also state-owned enterprises in other places. Why are the “sequels” of the Northeast people so obvious?

One possible cause is to ease the sequelae of state-owned enterprises, requiring strong external factors. Geographically, Northeast China has become a cecal closed area in terms of openness and modernity, which is not as good as Yunnan and Guangxi. Over the past four decades, China's main economic engine has been on the southeast. This is the main cause and effect, not the opposite. Cultural factors will also play a role, but considering that the Northeast economy had a glorious economic period before liberation and after the founding of the people's Republic of China, even in the whole of Asia, the geographical changes may be more decisive than the regional cultural factors.


There is no doubt that the population outflow of Northeast China exists.

Two days before the Spring Festival, a high school classmate who returned home from the country sent me a photo. At 3 o'clock in the morning, the station square is full of people who rent and return home. I used to ride this train many years ago, I don't remember so many people. According to the latest data, the hometown is a county-level administrative district with a significant net inflow of population in the Northeast. Where are the net outflows of the population?

Many problems are here, including pension issues.

The exodus is an extremely complex group. Some of them are the natural outflow of population through the college entrance examination and other channels. This is a relative constant.

The other part is polarized. In the same year, the reform of state-owned enterprises in Northeast China created a large number of laid-off workers and produced a lot of new rich people. Those northeastern people who are not rich and expensive, no matter where they go, may not feel that they have problems. Generally speaking, other people will not particularly feel their existence.

The strongest sense of existence is the migrant workers and self-employed. Many people's fate of the turning point, can be traced back to the previous round of SOE reform.

Online to today there are posts. Not long ago, I saw a laid-off female worker who was robbed by a robber, and the other was also laid off, and the two hopeless people knelt down and wept each other.

The authenticity of the post can no longer be tested. In 1998, I just read the last report of Xinhua Abstracts, which mentioned that the Shenyang family lived on 50 yuan a month and had to go to the vegetable market every day to pick up vegetables and leaves. In the early two years of the century, some of my classmates, relatives and friends, died under the hammer of the so-called "adze Party."

These past, although not occupied an important position in the news hotspot, but the time of digestion and pain is long.

As a side of the phenomenon of northeast people's "leaving", it is the tireless pursuit of "labor export" for more than twenty years.

To what extent? Although not everyone will go abroad, there are certainly more than half. In 2011, Liaoning Province, Jinzhou, the export of labor services reached 210,000, while in 2014 the registered population of the city was only 3 million. About the Spring Festival of 2010, I went back to the northeast, and I rode through a village with my classmates, and I felt that the voice was silent. I only know when I ask, almost all of the youth and labor are "labor export", and they can't come back to reunite during the Chinese New Year.

Every time I go back to my hometown, my father always talks about one of my elementary school classmates. He snuck to the United States in his twenties and finally emerged after many years.

The point I'm concerned about is that the classmate married a Hong Kong woman. When I was a kid, I'm a “a master of learning”. The student is a “slag”. My father has been proud of me for many years. It seems realistic to re-educate him.

Others who "goed out" during the same period came back to choose to buy land to build houses and build factories. My elementary school classmate is said to have asked me about it and would like to consult Shanghai to buy a house. Nature is like a model of success.

Most of the labor exports, not so ambitious, just a few years of hard work, in his hometown to save a house. This kind of labor export is actually very limited in terms of the upgrading of labor skills. I ask them, why not consider finding a longer term job in coastal cities?

They obviously feel that my question has no value to answer.

Overseas "labor export" priority, become a prosperous scene, resulting in today's Northeast, hidden "North overseas Chinese Township." Accompanied by a large number of illegal detention, but so many Northeast China as a result of the high refusal to go abroad.

Of course, in the last two years, more attention has been paid to Hainan as the fourth northeast province to become a hot spot. Too much information is needed.

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The main obstacle is not the aborigines, but the threshold of migration.

China is of course a unified market, but there are differences between different levels of the region. Within a province, it is relatively uniform in terms of labor rights and welfare. Between provinces, some differences and barriers are quite large. People move between provinces. If you consider the household registration factor, sometimes it is not easier than immigration overseas. Even today, many cities have to “grab people”, and academic qualifications are still a tool for screening.

This explains why labor exports are so popular in the Northeast. The reform of state-owned enterprises has caused polarization in the possession of social resources. The data show that differentiation is all-around. For those who do not have a degree and social resources, the opportunity to work abroad, or even the possibility of staying for a longer period of time, is more likely to be lower than the cost of migrating in some cities in the country. The working environment is not bad, how to choose at a glance.

Similarly, social security problem as a whole is also inevitable. With Detroit's economy in decline, Californians will not be prejudiced against the "Detroit people." Even without taking into account such factors as social security in the workplace, co-ordination is a ransom for some basic rights that fail to pay equal rights. There is nothing to complain about, as long as you shut the door and eat on a table. Of course, unreasonable places are not without, such as some occupations or jobs in the Northeast, the income of retirees is unreasonably high. But this is still the result of household registration and institutional barriers, and it is not a regional problem-the unreasonably high pension is not the majority anywhere.


The complaining needs to be understood, and the complainer needs to be understood. Some characteristics of Northeast people, such as "official standard" consciousness of criticism, there is a sympathetic understanding of the angle, there is no sympathy point of view, are not wrong. My intention is not to discuss in this article a kind of permanent universal, innocuous, and more existing in the after-dinner "saliva map gun."

What is strange about me is that it is like the cocoon section mentioned above: the attention of the Northeast is concerned, why is this time?

Northeast people flow to the inside of the pass, not start after the change. The period of the "War of Resistance" will not be mentioned. After the founding of the people's Republic of China, it was a common phenomenon that industrial workers in Northeast China supported the inland and even moved internally. Located in the south, many factories and mines, some even formed the Northeast dialect of the small "enclaves." There is no doubt that, partly due to the closure of the compound, there are more cultural differences than conflict.

In terms of the scale of population flow, although the outflow of people in Northeast China is slightly intensified today, the conditions of outflow will not be worse than those of the laid-off tide in the 1990s, and the impact will not be stronger than that of the laid-off tide in the 1990s. If regional culture and even the personality of the crowd are defective, then why has it not been the focus of phenomenal communication for so long (also 20 years in the Internet age)?

It's possible, "what happens when the Northeast people leave?" It's not a real problem at all.

As far as I know, discrimination in culture and life, exclusion of Northeast people, has not occurred on a scale. Online, however, against the Yellow River flooded areas of discriminatory recruitment, the result is everyone shouted. Even if there has been an increase in outflows from the northeast in recent years, the most grassroots at the bottom, and the more elite within and outside the system, do not necessarily pay attention to this topic.

Those who are really sensitive to this topic are more likely to come from the middle and lower classes of educated people, or perhaps the largest users of social media. At any time, this group has a stronger sense of identity.

The conscious reinforcement of cultural identity is not only for the Northeast. For quite some time, the debate between the South and the North, including euphemistic hints (after all, a political inaccuracy), has never been absent from social media. From the remarks like "No Chinese after Cliff Hill", to "Whether the festival eats dumplings", "Dialects and Mandarin" come and go.

Knowledge may not bring insight and mind, and some scholars' emphasis on regional differences comes not only from the need for cultural superiority. The look of twisting the bar is like seeing a self-proclaimed liberal American wearing a 3K party uniform.

Some folk sentiments are hidden when the economic cake is easy to grow. For example, in Europe, "anti-Semitism" has always existed, but only in a certain period of time has become a strongly expressed voice.

When the cake is not so easy, it is more sensitive to the interests, it is easier to "catch the bad guys" and find the "scapegoat." No matter on which a scale, xenophobic often go hand in hand with the economic downturn. The excluded people almost always face moral accusations, such as laziness, rudeness, violence, danger, tackiness, stupidity...

Historically, in most cases, similar labeling allegations have ultimately proved to be fallacies. The characteristics of some people are exaggerated and moralized, in fact, more to reduce the sense of guilt that morality may cause.

Perhaps everything should go back to the person himself, the specific individual. As with rural issues, the relative abundance of farmers as human beings is more important than seeing a "bright" rural area, and the quality of life of moving northeast people is more important than the identity of being bound to a land. Many of the problems are solved in the course of development, and any "critique of national inferiority", which is obsessed with maps, seems too petty and shortsighted.

In the large spatial scale of China, the diversity of cultural regions, once there is a large-scale population migration, it is difficult to find a precedent for analogy in other parts of the world.

There has been a migration of people of the same size in history. Looking at the larger time and space coordinates, maybe not so big. When the Guandong was in the middle of the year, the Northeast became a land of tolerance, but now it is returning, but it is like a big breath of history.

But for specific individuals, this is a complex and even painful process.

This article from the micro-channel public number: Everybody (ID: ipress), Author: Song Jinbo. The content of the article is purely the author's personal opinion and does not represent a platform perspective.

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